APEC工商领导人峰会奥巴马对话马云

US President Barack Obama took time off at an Asia-Pacific meeting on Wednesday for an unusual task -- putting questions to Chinese internet billionaire Jack Ma and a young Filipina entrepreneur on government-business ties in a panel discussion.

本周三，美国总统奥巴马在亚太会议上会见了中国互联网大亨马云和一名菲律宾年轻企业家，他们就政府和商业之间的关系展开了不同寻常的讨论。

Obama joked comfortably with the founder and executive chairman of Alibaba Group Holding Ltd, which is looking to make inroads into foreign markets, including the United States.

奥巴马和阿里巴巴的创始人及董事长马云打趣称，阿里巴巴可以在美国和其他一些国家寻求出路。

During the discussion on the sidelines of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Manila, the US president probed Ma on how he thought government and established businesses could help young entrepreneurs.

这次APEC（亚太经合组织）峰会在马尼拉举行，美国总统奥巴马和马云探讨如何让政府和企业帮助更多的年轻的企业家。

"Government is simple - just reduce the tax, or no tax, for these guys," Ma responded, to a wave of laughter and applause from the audience of business executives.

“这对于政府很简单，政府只需要减少税收或者不收税，这就对这些企业家大有帮助。”马云回答道，引来场下商业人士阵阵欢笑和掌声。

Ma's remarks come as Alibaba works to invest heavily in ventures abroad. Executives have said its push beyond the China market is a top priority, as the company works to maintain its rapid growth. Alibaba has said some of its larger overseas markets include Brazil and Russia.

马云说道阿里巴巴将会大力扩大海外投资。一些商业人士表示，阿里巴巴要保持其快速的成长速度，扩大其海外公司的扩张是极其重要的。阿里巴巴表示其最大的海外市场包括巴西和俄罗斯。

Obama also praised the relatively unknown Filipina entrepreneur, Aisa Mijeno, a professor of engineering who invented a lamp powered by salt water. He suggested that Ma should invest in the company of his fellow panellist after she said she was looking for funding to mass-produce the lamps.

奥巴马称赞了一位并不出名的菲律宾企业家Mijeno，他也是一名工程教授。他发明了用盐水来供电的电灯。奥巴马建议马云应该投资这家公司并寻求资金大规模生产这样的台灯。

Ma added that he thought it was a "fantastic idea" to invest in clean technology, referring to a recent conversation in which Microsoft Corp co-founder Bill Gates broached the idea.

马云表示，投资洁净科技这是个非常好的方法，这也是最近微软创始人比尔盖茨非常赞同的观点。